Whatever the drawbacks of electrostatic and ribbon loudspeakers may be, there is no denying that with the right material they can absolutely dissolve into thin air. The first time I ever heard a pair of Magnepans I heard some deficiencies, but I also heard the performance in the room with me in a way that I had never, ever heard with conventional loudspeakers. This is precisely why, despite the requirements of planar loudspeakers, their siren song exerts such a strong pull over those of us who have heard their magic.
AVE: Eminent is known for planar loudspeakers. Aside from being hybrids,
people are going to compare Eminent loudspeakers to your competitor
Magnepan. I understand that your ribbon designs differ from the approach that they have taken with their designs. Break it down for the reader who hasn't read the white papers: how does a ribbon driver produce sound, and how does your ribbon driver differ from the competition?
BT: Mageplanar is one of a handful of what I consider to be the best American audio companies. It is only when you design and manufacture
planar transducers that you appreciate how well engineered Magneplanar
products are.
We are only competitors for a part of that business.
Magneplanar popularized the term 'planar magnetic' as a type of loudspeaker that uses magnets adjacent to a stretched film with conductors aligned on the film such that when current flows through the
conductor the diaphragm moves back and forth displacing air and making
sound.
A ribbon loudspeaker is made with just a foil conductor without
turns and no film substrate, placed in a magnetic field. The true
ribbon transducer can be either a microphone or a tweeter. Marketing
departments have blurred the definition of these two transducer types
such that there is very little distinction between the ribbon and
planar magnetic terms as it applies to a family of loudspeakers. The
damage is done.
Like Magneplanar we build planar magnetic loudspeakers. We are
building hybrids and Magneplanar is building full range products. Our
tweeters are a cross between a planar and ribbon loudspeaker. All of
our planar magnetic transucers are push pull.
AVE: The LFT-VIII has been around for a while, and seen some improvements along the way. Congratulations for designing an enduring loudspeaker. For whatever reason, this is a loudspeaker that doesn't seem to get a lot of attention from the mainstream audio press. I can't seem to find anyone who has anything but praise for it among the few editorial reviews I've seen and the many owner reviews on audioreview.com.
BT: My goal in running Eminent has been to put as much of the return on
the sale of products back into R and D instead of marketing. So yes,
part of our different business model results in lower visibility than a
company that runs full page ads. We hope that a few customers will
appreciate our approach.
Although low profile we developed cone loudspeakers for the largest
Indonesian television-audio company and licensed transducer technology
for the Monsoon computer multimedia and home speakers. We are designing
different sound sources for Boeing, the Univeristy of Hawaii infrasound
research laboratory, and projects we cannot discuss. We recently
installed rotary woofers in Niagaras Fury and the Evergreen Aviation
museum. In many respects we are not a traditional high end audio
company.
AVE: What year did the first LFT-VIII come out?
BT: We introduced the LFT-VIII in 1992 after manufactiuring three full range planar speakers, the LFT-III , LFT-IV and LFT-VI. The model numbers of our products are the engineering projects. The gaps in the numbers are either in house research, research projects for other companies, failures, or products we decided not to make.
AVE: The design is fairly low efficiency. Do you feel that the LFT-VIII with the right amplifier is capable of reproducing the dynamics required for home theater use and playback of large scale orchestral pieces, or is this a loudspeaker that you feel is better suited to two channel usage with material that demands less bombast?
BT: The LFT-VIII is low efficiency. In a loudspeaker there is an inverse
relationship between bandwidth and efficiency. Flatness of response is
also traded for efficiency. We decided to trade efficiency for those characteristics.
Today if you are a loudspeaker company you need to be in home theater to survive. Because a home theater has multiple channels the sum of the channels
makes efficiency less critical. About 80 percent of current LFT-VIII
sales are for home theater, so it must not be a problem. If you need a
loudspeaker to fill a very large room at high sound pressure the LFT-VIII
or other planar or electrostatic type loudspeakers are not the right
choice.
AVE: One of the reasons that planar and electrostatic transducers have so many fans is the magical way that they just dissolve with the right recordings. I think it's a lot easier for these designs to sound like the performance is in the room with you than it is for loudspeakers using conventional drivers. What are your feelings regarding ribbon vs. electrostat, and the strengths and weaknesses of both technologies?
BT: No loudspeaker is perfect, at least not yet. If they all sound different, odds are that none of them are right.
The electrostatic loudspeaker has a advantage in quickness, probably
less so today with modern magnetic materials. It also has the lightest diaphragm. Planar magnetics and electrostatic loudspeakers are both
equal in terms of low coloration and the way they couple to the air ( a
really good impedance match). The planar magnetic has an advantage in
terms of efficiency and bandwidth per unit area over an electrostatic.
They are both excellent tranducers.
AVE: There are some loudspeaker design approaches that attempt to capture the enviable qualities of planar loudspeakers using conventional drivers. Richard Vandersteen has made a career of designing loudspeakers that are relatively "baffleless" and pursue time coherency. Tannoy has established a dynasty based on a point source driver design that is on it's sixth decade in production. Open baffle designs are propagating. What are your opinions regarding these approaches?
BT: I really like Vandersteen products. Anyone who buys them will be
happy. They are low coloration and very neutral. I have not listened
to Tannoys in 30 years so I do not have a comment.
Cone drivers are relatively easy to make, the tooling, software and
parts are readily available. The really difficult part is getting them
to sound good. You have to spend a lot of time with them. It is easy to
make a bad sounding cone speaker.
Planar transducers are also easy to manufacture, but you have to
create your own tooling and modeling capability. By comparison they
almost automatically sound good. It is hard to make a bad sounding planar speaker as long as you know how to work with the limitations of the
transducer.
AVE: Eminent loudspeakers are sold through the traditional brick and mortar model. I think the right product can really fly with direct sales. There certainly are a lot of internet direct audio success stories. It could possibly lead to a price decrease for the consumer and a profit increase for the manufacturer, in addition to the potential for the product making it into more homes.
Obviously the drawback is that internet direct loudspeakers can't be auditioned, but you also can't audition a loudspeaker that there aren't any local dealers for either. In addition, the mainstream audio press doesn't seem to pay a whole lot of attention to internet direct products when conducting equipment reviews. Have you ever considered going internet direct? What do you think the upside and downside of both business models are in regards to Eminent?
BT: You have summed the marketing dilemma up nicely. I believe your
assessment of the tradeoffs in the two aproaches to marketing is
correct. At one time we had about 100 dealers in the U.S., today we
have less than 25. We will sell direct to anyone outside of a
reasonable coverage area of our dealers. We pay shipping to offset the
cost difference and offer a refund. This does not completely solve the
pricing difference. Unlike many smaller speaker companies we
manufacture most of the speaker in house. At this writing raw material
prices are going up at a significnt rate so prices will go up in the
near term.
Another aspect is overseas sales which become more difficult for a direct marketer. The audio business is still changing. We may make the
jump to all direct sales at some point. I cannot say when.
AVE: Your rotary subwoofer may be the first original idea in audio in quite some time. How did that idea come about? With a ceiling of 40 Hz, a lot of floorstanding loudspeakers could be paired with the rotor with no need for a supplemental subwoofer. Obviously this baby hits low, and from the looks of the chart on your site, hard as well. Strike that, according to that chart there is no subwoofer in production that is even close to inhabiting the same zip code as the TRW-17. How fast does the rotor respond in comparison to a conventional driver?
BT: I was flying a model helicopter and while looking at its rotor and pitch mechanism on the ground, the epiphany hit that it was a loudspeaker.
This was on a weekend and we have a pretty good shop. Becuse I crashed the helicopter a lot (no reflection on my real fixed wing piloting skills!) I had plenty of spare parts. It took about twelve hours to make the first prototype. It worked well enough to ' bet the company' on it.
In the frequency range that the TRW-17 responds it is the same speed (as a conventional sub). I'm not interested in competing with conventional subwoofers, rather to offer a new frequency range for audio systems. Of course there are plenty of skeptics, but a double blind study shows that it is completely valid.
If you are anywhere near an
Eminent Technology dealer you owe it to yourself to give Bruce's products a listen. Even if you haven't considered a planar loudspeaker before, just go see what the fuss is all about. You just may decide that the spell they cast is too strong to ignore, despite all the caveats. My heartfelt thanks to Bruce for sharing his time with us.
Photo of Bruce Thigpen with TRW-17 courtesy of John Atkinson, originally published 16Sep06 as part of Stereophile's CEDIA 2006 Show Report.